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Poster: lobster12 Date: Feb 11, 2008 9:55am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: how bad was 1995??????

I had a discussion with a friend about this. The salt lake City run in February produces 4 breakouts in 3 days and it never really registered then nor does it now. In other years heads would have lost their minds with a visions out of space or an obscure SLC opener. Hate to pile on 95 but it was a subject that came up over the weekend and produced a lot of interesting comments

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Feb 11, 2008 10:40am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: how bad was 1995??????

pretty damn bad but then again I think 94 was just as bad.

BUT, why pick out THIS show as an example? Over all I find it to be very enjoyable for any year

http://www.archive.org/details/gd95-02-21.dsbd.stephens.8840.sbeok.shnf

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Poster: lobster12 Date: Feb 11, 2008 11:14am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: how bad was 1995??????

3 breakouts in one night. First set is actually strong. Unfortunately, i went to Oakland days later and it was when i knew something was up.
I also agree about 94. The problem for me was I actually got some decent shows live in 94 so I never knew the overall extent of how bad a year it was. This site proved that pretty quickly.

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Poster: user unknown Date: Feb 11, 2008 2:03pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: how bad was 1995??????

How bad was 1995, you ask. Well, it was one helluva lot better than 95% of the garbage that has been foisted upon us in the guise of music since then. Face it, "bad Grateful Dead"(what an oxymoron...similar to military intelligence)is far superior to most of the regurgitated pablum we are subjected to daily by "Mega Music Inc".

This post was modified by user unknown on 2008-02-11 22:03:50

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Poster: northstar dead Date: Feb 11, 2008 10:11am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: how bad was 1995??????

Never caught any shows in 95. Last shows I saw was Seattle/Eugene 94. I kind of thought about this in a round about way the other day. If Jerry would have survived, I believe the music would have evolved into something really great. But Jerry would have had to get "better" and could he? If he had it would be a better day. Damn skippy

Side projects would have still worked well, with some touring and what not. But had the Grateful Dead survived, and in a really cool world, gotten Bob Seger to take over the keys, we would be talking at shows as well as this forum.

So yeah, It was sounding a little rough the final years. But had they pulled through it, who knows?

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Feb 11, 2008 10:23am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: how bad was 1995??????

Bob Seger on keys? Now there's a thought. Certainly would have filled the vocal void.

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Poster: lobster12 Date: Feb 11, 2008 10:37am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: how bad was 1995??????

Wow. never would have thought of that. Didn't know Seger was even tuned on the piano. Vocally it's a great call. heard rumors he had throat issues, possibly cancer for some time which is why he fell out of the limelight for what seemed like forever. As for the folks who think talking about 95 in a negative light is bad voodoo, I highly recommend the Scarlet> Fire from the Seattle show. Great in any year.

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Poster: mcgannahan Date: Feb 11, 2008 10:26am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: how bad was 1995??????

why don't we all just revel in the band's glory, not it's demise. lots more fun that way. heroin, you win again!

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Poster: northstar dead Date: Feb 11, 2008 10:31am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: how bad was 1995??????

Then go revel in the bands glory. Duh, someone can't post a subject with out your approval? No body was saying we are not beside ourself in the glory old Dead. Just pondering what might had been. See you back in 1979

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Poster: high flow Date: Feb 11, 2008 10:39am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: how bad was 1995??????

drugs are bad....nnnnnnnkay?

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Poster: northstar dead Date: Feb 11, 2008 10:40am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: how bad was 1995??????

Monkeys are bad too

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Feb 11, 2008 10:47am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: how bad was 1995??????

i dont like monkeys either. they are scarier than clowns.

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Poster: He Live's Date: Feb 11, 2008 10:26pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: how bad was 1995??????

one word: RABBITS (sorry, six words)

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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: Feb 11, 2008 10:49pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: how bad was 1995??????

hey, where's our friend dead-head_Monte???? i miss that guy, posted some cool shit....

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Poster: He Live's Date: Feb 12, 2008 8:12am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: MONTE.... you there?

hi arb,

i was wondering that myself.... actually..... monte?

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Poster: northstar dead Date: Feb 11, 2008 10:55am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: how bad was 1995??????

Monkeys and Clowns now their is a name for our next band

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Feb 11, 2008 10:56am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: how bad was 1995??????

if y'all are dressing the part - i wont be able to watch - but can I still get some sbd's?????

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Poster: northstar dead Date: Feb 11, 2008 10:58am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: how bad was 1995??????

This could be the badest motherfuckin band out. Yeah you get exclusive rights on all the SBD's.
Hey take SDH advice any go right now to the Stralight show summer 82' and start right out at Shakedown second set opener. Go right now or the Clowns and Monkeys from Hell will get you....

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Feb 11, 2008 11:02am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: how bad was 1995??????

"Go right now or the Clowns and Monkeys from Hell will get you.... "


NNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ok - opening notes of Shakedown.........

(please tell the monkeys and clowns from hell to stay home...... please?????)

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Feb 11, 2008 11:06am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: how bad was 1995??????

Not this is one scary monkey:

http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2006/0421/nhl_s_chimchim_275.jpg

And to think I had him on my lunchbox back in the day.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Feb 11, 2008 11:08am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: how bad was 1995??????

DAMN!!!!

that monkey is tripping balls off of salvia or dmt. very deranged look.

i'm gonna have nightmares now - he is pure evil.

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Feb 11, 2008 11:10am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: how bad was 1995??????

Don't worry, Chim Chim is coming to a theater near you next year.

Be afraid. Be very afraid.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Feb 11, 2008 11:16am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: how bad was 1995??????

she will protect me from evil chimchim.......




Attachment: jm.bmp

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Poster: lobster12 Date: Feb 11, 2008 11:24am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: how bad was 1995??????

Yes he is. I saw the trailer and spy kids called and asked for their special effects back.

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Poster: mcgannahan Date: Feb 11, 2008 9:00pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: how bad was 1995??????

oh, fuck off. that's like asking, hey guys, was the holocaust that bad?

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffNoiseCollector Date: Feb 11, 2008 9:15pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: how bad was 1995??????

Depends on what train you were on.

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Feb 11, 2008 10:31am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: how bad was 1995??????

True, but discussion of the band should entail both the good and bad, IMHO anyway.

And, sorry Rob, but speaking of demise and heroin, this seems apt:

I caught you knockin'
at my cellar door
I love you, baby,
can I have some more
Ooh, ooh, the damage done.

I hit the city and
I lost my band
I watched the needle
take another man
Gone, gone, the damage done.

I sing the song
because I love the man
I know that some
of you don't understand
Milk-blood
to keep from running out.

I've seen the needle
and the damage done
A little part of it in everyone
But every junkie's
like a settin' sun

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Feb 11, 2008 10:59am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: how bad was 1995??????

Live Crazy Horse featuring Mr. Whitten:
http://concerts.wolfgangsvault.com/dt/neil-young-and-crazy-horse-concert/1085-5023.html

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Poster: buscameby Date: Feb 11, 2008 11:04am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: how bad was 1995??????

WORST YEAR EVER! JERRY DIED! nough said.

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Poster: skuzzlebutt Date: Feb 11, 2008 2:05pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: how bad was 1995??????

(Simpsons Comic Book Guy voice):

Worst.....year....ever

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Poster: daliguana Date: Feb 11, 2008 5:36pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: how bad was 1995??????

Divorce, treatment, last show, (and that's just me).
Never even listened to any of the shows from that year.

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Poster: JodyC Date: Feb 12, 2008 4:08pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: how bad was 1995??????

I'm sure I said it before, but after a 13 year gap seeing them last in 1981, they played two nightseach summer in St. Louis in 94 and 95. The venue was a couple miles from my house and the onslaught of tour heads was so fun. Truly the circus came to town. There were 25 of us for the first shows in 94 and frankly, we had the time of our lives. Being out of the loop allowed me to have missed the obvious decline and simply relive the glory days from college 1977-1981. So, what can I say. I listen to the shows every once and a while. Seeing them for a couple shows before their last days at Soldier Field was better than nothing. I still would go see them tonight if he came back and could only muster up the 7/9/95 show again. The archive etc has been so wonderful in understanding the early years, etc. I am a bigger fan today as a result of all these fine recordings than I was when they were touring. Harsh reality perhaps, but so it goes.